Changes to Mech Combat

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Changes to Mech Combat

Post by Darakhoranon » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:00 pm

Since we are once again blowing up pirate mechs, this might be a good time to think about mech combat in general.

The way I see it, there are three main "problems" with mechs.

1.
Your access to the "advanced" arenas depends on our current Mech Points, which you get by defeating mechs and which are tied to the mech that gained them. You lose that mech, you lose the points.
This means two things: a) you have to keep any mech with a large amount of MP safely rusting on the sidelines so that you do not lose access to the other arenas, and b) even if you are one of the few people with access, you will not find many (if any) opponents. And the way mech combat works means it is only fun if the arena is practically bursting with mechs.

Possible change: Either change it so that MP are simply added up (i.e. are no longer tied to a specific mech and thus not lost with that mech), or tie access to "advanced" arenas to your mech commander level (e.g. once you reach mech commander lvl 5, you are also automatically granted access to Beta), either of which would lead to anyone who sends in mechs to eventually (and permanently) unlock the other arenas


2.
There is no reason not to go with the tried and true "classic" mech (Predator/Ablative 4/(Adv) Kinetic), since there is no profit in fielding a smaller/lighter mech if you have the parts for the "classic".

Possible change: Smaller/lighter mechs could gain a (noticeable!) bonus to movement, the chance to evade an attack or even higher accuracy of their own attacks. This way, there would suddenly be an actual choice between simply fielding the largest/heaviest mech you can and sending in a weaker/more fragile one that could still compete due to a bonus to certain stats.


3.
Somewhat tied into 2., there is also no real point in choosing different weapon and armour types. Ablative 4 + (Adv) Kinetic is hands down the "best" combination, all others are only done either due to necessity (if you lack the "right" parts) or a pure gamble due to a (much) lower effective damage and/or accuracy.

Possible change: Instead of four different "weights" of armour, have four different "types" (i.e. strong vs kinetic, ex, em, OR ht). That way, using different types of weapon would suddenly make sense since you just might get lucky and send e.g. a mech with ex weapons/kin armour against an opponent with kin weapons/ht armour (i.e. your mech would have a noticeable advantage).
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Re: Changes to Mech Combat

Post by Darakhoranon » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:17 pm

Bumping this due to the challenge/prize mechs being active again.

Take a look at the combat raging in Bravo and Charlie arenas... ;-)
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Re: Changes to Mech Combat

Post by Coops » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:29 am

Hoping to run a large Everyone VS Coops Combat over Christmas and New Year - with prizes for lots of special kills.

I'll take a few days out and review what we can do to expand the use of the Bravo and Charlie zones.

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Re: Changes to Mech Combat

Post by pikolinianita » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:05 pm

I'd downgrade charlie to "no regen armour, no Adv Weapon, 1500HP" arena, and name it Training Arena. Or Vintage Arena, lol. And also remove points restriction, ofc.

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Re: Changes to Mech Combat

Post by pikolinianita » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:17 pm

And there are those ugly Mech Trains :( Can we have one more Mech weapon - trampoline. if it hit, enemy mech will be teleported to another, random tile. then Trampoline mech would selfdestruct from reactor overload.
Option: trampoline works with "AI - AIKIDO" only

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