Dynamic Joe's List/ Resource prices

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Dynamic Joe's List/ Resource prices

Post by 5hortpants » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:37 am

I'm sure I'm not the first person to suggest something along these lines, and in fact I know that Coops has this on his PIB (possible ideas board) based on previous posts: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1463

I thought I would throw in my two cents anyway, though. The current fixed-price model for resources based on the Joe's List price is comfortable and predictable, but it often doesn't reflect the difficulty or effort involved in collecting resources. Combat and Alien resources, along with Derelict and Settlement Combat resources, are priced in the same range as easy-to-collect extractables.

I did notice that the Mall Resources list includes a Resource Server Volume: http://core-exiles.com/099e24da60b13902 ... /malls.php

In general, the difficulty of collecting a resource is reflected by a scarcity of server volume. If Joe's list price was based on this list (either dynamically or updated periodically) it might make the entire game more dynamic. For example, as popular new schematics used up resources that were not in high demand previously, we would see the list price rise, and no doubt many players would shift to activities to fill the demand.

As with many ideas, it is likely not possible, though. Since Joe's price permeates so many layers of the game (GBM, malls, resource stores, and even extractor rates) it may not be feasible to link so many things to a dynamic list. Also, the huge implications to game play may not make it very possible. However, as a fever dream it entertains me.

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Re: Dynamic Joe's List/ Resource prices

Post by Coops » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:31 pm

Interested in thoughts and suggestions on this...

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Re: Dynamic Joe's List/ Resource prices

Post by Mechwarrior » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:21 am

I like your idea, well thought out

actions have reactions use more resource for crafting etc and the res becomes rare and sort after thus increasing the price.

a lot of coding I am guessing

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Re: Dynamic Joe's List/ Resource prices

Post by king david » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:37 am

supply and demand is managed in the GBM automatically. the players balance it themselves.

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Re: Dynamic Joe's List/ Resource prices

Post by pikolinianita » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:10 am

king david wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:37 am
supply and demand is managed in the GBM automatically. the players balance it themselves.
would be true If we had unlimited GBM slots. atm It is not so. There are many times I see request with low price, and I cannot offer more because lack of slots :(

On the other hand it is hard to find good system for making general adjustments. GBM prices? easy to abuse. (change of) amount of resources in game? well, prices would stay down when people gather resource (for a newly relaesed thingie), and go up when all is crafted (so demand goes down). However, in my opinion, such system could work only for resources hard to get, with large supply/demend changes, that is combat loot, derelict. for most other resources it would be waste of time/effort, as effect would/should be negligible.

On the other side, limited dynamics (limited to certain areas of the game) could be quite intresting. Like Alien Trade - most resources are valued at Joe values (in Tl), some are higher. would be nice to see supply-demend thing here, with price move between 0.5-5 Joe price (in Tl), for example.

Other system could be malls - more popular items should have price lowered, rarer items should be more expensive. instead of 3xJoe price shoukd fluctuate between 2 and 5x joe (guessed that 3x joe number, I forget real price coefficient). Official list of mall prices should be published somewhere. Courier prices could be chained to that aswell.

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Re: Dynamic Joe's List/ Resource prices

Post by king david » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:27 am

yes but Piko, if the price is too low , it will just sit there unfulfilled. Run cure-all a gbm min
what we pay at the GBM establishes value, low supply = high price

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